TAS contribution to the Forging Communist Unity process – 23 February

Talking About Socialism…from a Marxist point of view

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  1. In Vol 1 and vol 2 of Capital, Marx discusses the higher and lower phases of the same Society-Communism. In both phases there is non market production for use. Associated or co-operative production is not about the production of commodities, collective production is not commodity production. In the Gotha programme, Marx argues that a society of common ownership there would be no exchange of products on a capitalist basis. This view rests on the assumption of an advanced Capitalist Society or a society with the material prerequisites for Communism. The CPGB model for a transitional society between Capitalism and Socialism or Communism seems to be based on an interpretation of the Russian Revolution and an isolated USSR which was not ripe for communism. Lenin made it clear to Bukharin in 1918 that Russia was out of historical time for the Commune withering away of the state and a classless society. The transitional society then became something between Capitalism and Communism or Socialism, based on developing the means of production on the basis of capitalist technology and organisation, Ernest Mandel, in the Trotskyist tradition, summed up the transitional society as nationalisation of the means of production by a so called workers state. So even where there was no socialisation of production or the power of associated workers in the society it could still be seen as transitional or the basis for a future Communist or Socialist society.

  2. your right to say there is no wall between economic and political struggle. The class struggle of the 1970s, framed through price and income policies in a situation of a falling rate of profit and so investment/accumulation, expresses this fusion of the political and economic moments raising class consciousness. The 1980s, in this light, is the attempt to reverse this fusion through the range of attacks on the labour movement, deindustrialisation, while presenting capital with the political and economic power to redesign the modes of exploitation of workers labour power. The more recent waves of strikes after years of austerity are as you say, examples of the state intervening in wage bargaining and working conditions, thus expressing the ‘political’ moment. However, the context is very different today. The Tory government sought to prevent the movement of strikes and work to rules from becoming political and they were successful at this, as they remained firmly economistic (supported in no small way by the trade unions themselves in the way the conducted the strikes/actions). I suppose this tells us that the context (state of class struggle and specific regime of capital accumulation – within which the working class must be managed) influence the dialectics of the economic and political.

    On the other hand, it depends on how we define transition. My understanding of transition is a society that is inherently unstable, reactionary, and in which democracy of any form is intolerable. Like you, not a society communist parties can claim to take the reins per-se and smooth out the edges of via the state.
    My view is that socialism has been co-opted and corrupted within the development and senility of capitalism, as capital has become just as social as the power of labour. The socialisation of production inherent to capitalism has dovetailed with versions of socialism ‘on behalf of the working class’: as the categories through which capital rules labour decline under the impact of socialisation, they are bolstered by co-opting socialism as it aligns with the socialisation of production and the inherent necessity to administer capital on a larger scale. The classical view of a shift from capitalism to socialism (first stage of communism) to communism has been shattered. The struggle is for communism and the ground for this struggle is not the state per-se (there must be an alternative source of worker power as a basis for taking on the state), but instead what Marx saw as the first form of workers power – communes.
    In this respect, the socialisation of capital and labour and developments in technology create firmer and firmer ground for communes. This socialisation is of course purposely fragmented and atomised by finance capital (supply chain global capitalism, break up of large firms into independent units, hybrid organisation of public goods (health, education and so on) into ‘mixed markets’ (the worst of hierarchical control and budget controls over workers). This regime of accumulation is one that manages the necessity to make profit but in ways that prevent the collective power of labour to express itself across the economic and political moments and so raise itself from class in itself to class for itself.

    Obviously in this format it all looks abstract and speculative, but the fuller explanation (and historical hindsight) bears the above out more concretely.

    All the best.

  3. I agree, Peter, that the socialisation of production inherent in capitalism dovetailed with a version of communism in which the party substituted for the class and the basis of power was the state rather than communes or mass democratic participation in economic and political decision making. As you say, the classic view of the shift from capitalism to socialism as the lower stage of communism does not have credibility, but only for comrades who have a critical view of the history of the Russian Revolution and Bolshevism.

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